FSX - Help with VOR training

[Don Burnette]

Ok, my first dumb question :).

I am attempting to fly, the VOR lesson in FSX.

It starts out in flight, Rod sets the VOR to 360, and you follow it at a
heading of 360,

My dilemma is, I do this, and the text on the screen always says I am too
far left, if I bank right and start going to the right, then his voice comes
on and tells me to bank left.

So, I continue on a heading of 360, pass the vor point, the arrow moves to
the bottom so I am flying away from it. Then, I just keep flying, for
several minutes, and get a " You must be distracted, so I am ending this
lesson ".

Can anyone help me with what I am missing on this one? I tried viewing the
fight analysis after he ended the mission, but I cannot really tell anything
from that.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Don Burnette]

Well, wouldn't you know it, went back and tried again after sending the
below, and I made it ok this time!! Not sure what I was doing wrong
before...

On with the lessons!
:)
--
Don Burnette

Post by Don Burnette
Ok, my first dumb question :).
I am attempting to fly, the VOR lesson in FSX.
It starts out in flight, Rod sets the VOR to 360, and you follow it at a
heading of 360,
My dilemma is, I do this, and the text on the screen always says I am too
far left, if I bank right and start going to the right, then his voice
comes on and tells me to bank left.
So, I continue on a heading of 360, pass the vor point, the arrow moves to
the bottom so I am flying away from it. Then, I just keep flying, for
several minutes, and get a " You must be distracted, so I am ending this
lesson ".
Can anyone help me with what I am missing on this one? I tried viewing the
fight analysis after he ended the mission, but I cannot really tell
anything from that.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
--
Don Burnette

[Marc Adler]

Post by Don Burnette
On with the lessons!
:)

By the way, can you give a brief description of how the lessons are
structured?

Marc

[Don Burnette]

Post by Marc Adler

Post by Don Burnette
On with the lessons!
:)

By the way, can you give a brief description of how the lessons are
structured?
Marc

Not sure what your looking for, so I copied and pasted below, out of the
lessons screen, kept it simple txt format as I prefer to not post in html...

Basically, looks like the lessons in FS9 to me, while I didn't get through
all of them, they seem the same. I am not sure they are all working
properly, for instance, I tried the taxi lesson, and just sat on the runway,
no voice ever came on instructing me on what I should do. Since I had
already gone through most of the simple lessons in FS9, I just did the first
solo lesson, then skipped to the vor navigation lesson. I have now made it
through the traffic pattern lesson, and am ready to start the ATC lesson.
There are also missions included, at least in my deluxe version, that are
somewhat training and fairly simple as well, and kind of fun.

Don



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[e***@gmail.com]

I'm having several issues with this lesson.

1) Rod is talking about how the DME is in the upper right hand corner,
with red letters and three numbers. Not even close. In my lesson, the
DME is in the middle-right, with orange letters and only 2 sets of
numbers. Did it load the wrong airplane somehow?

2) I have conflicting messages in the screen. It'll tell me "You are
too far left. Turn left." I have no idea how to pass this lesson.

Post by Don Burnette
Ok, my first dumb question :).
I am attempting to fly, the VOR lesson in FSX.
It starts out in flight, Rod sets the VOR to 360, and you follow it at a
heading of 360,
My dilemma is, I do this, and the text on the screen always says I am too
far left, if I bank right and start going to the right, then his voice comes
on and tells me to bank left.
So, I continue on a heading of 360, pass the vor point, the arrow moves to
the bottom so I am flying away from it. Then, I just keep flying, for
several minutes, and get a " You must be distracted, so I am ending this
lesson ".
Can anyone help me with what I am missing on this one? I tried viewing the
fight analysis after he ended the mission, but I cannot really tell anything
from that.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
--
Don Burnette

[Don Burnette]

I cant' remember if I kept trying it till I finally got lucky and made it,
or if I finally just gave up on this lesson.
I have a feeling, it was the latter... I got pretty frustrated with some of
those lessons.



Don

Post by e***@gmail.com
I'm having several issues with this lesson.
1) Rod is talking about how the DME is in the upper right hand corner,
with red letters and three numbers. Not even close. In my lesson, the
DME is in the middle-right, with orange letters and only 2 sets of
numbers. Did it load the wrong airplane somehow?
2) I have conflicting messages in the screen. It'll tell me "You are
too far left. Turn left." I have no idea how to pass this lesson.

Post by Don Burnette
Ok, my first dumb question :).
I am attempting to fly, the VOR lesson in FSX.
It starts out in flight, Rod sets the VOR to 360, and you follow it at a
heading of 360,
My dilemma is, I do this, and the text on the screen always says I am too
far left, if I bank right and start going to the right, then his voice comes
on and tells me to bank left.
So, I continue on a heading of 360, pass the vor point, the arrow moves to
the bottom so I am flying away from it. Then, I just keep flying, for
several minutes, and get a " You must be distracted, so I am ending this
lesson ".
Can anyone help me with what I am missing on this one? I tried viewing the
fight analysis after he ended the mission, but I cannot really tell anything
from that.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
--
Don Burnette

[Mike Young]

He found me disgusting, also. Jumped right out of the plane in his hissie
fit, 'splaining that I should come back when I'm not so distracted.

Catch the 360 radial as quickly as you can; ignore the heading advice until
you have it. You're pretty close to the station, so you only need a few
degrees correction briefly to center the needle. Fly a 360 track and hold
your altitude; I don't remember needing wind correction. Also ignore his
advice to start turning when the needle starts moving when intercepting the
second VOR. Instead, plan on turning at the standard rate, 3 degrees per
second. Watch the needle sweep toward center and try to time your turn, 15
seconds for the 45 degrees.

Post by Don Burnette
I cant' remember if I kept trying it till I finally got lucky and made it,
or if I finally just gave up on this lesson.
I have a feeling, it was the latter... I got pretty frustrated with some of
those lessons.
Don

Post by e***@gmail.com
I'm having several issues with this lesson.
1) Rod is talking about how the DME is in the upper right hand corner,
with red letters and three numbers. Not even close. In my lesson, the
DME is in the middle-right, with orange letters and only 2 sets of
numbers. Did it load the wrong airplane somehow?
2) I have conflicting messages in the screen. It'll tell me "You are
too far left. Turn left." I have no idea how to pass this lesson.

Post by Don Burnette
Ok, my first dumb question :).
I am attempting to fly, the VOR lesson in FSX.
It starts out in flight, Rod sets the VOR to 360, and you follow it at a
heading of 360,
My dilemma is, I do this, and the text on the screen always says I am

too

Post by e***@gmail.com

Post by Don Burnette
far left, if I bank right and start going to the right, then his voice

comes

Post by e***@gmail.com

Post by Don Burnette
on and tells me to bank left.
So, I continue on a heading of 360, pass the vor point, the arrow moves

to

Post by e***@gmail.com

Post by Don Burnette
the bottom so I am flying away from it. Then, I just keep flying, for
several minutes, and get a " You must be distracted, so I am ending this
lesson ".
Can anyone help me with what I am missing on this one? I tried viewing

the

Post by e***@gmail.com

Post by Don Burnette
fight analysis after he ended the mission, but I cannot really tell

anything

Post by e***@gmail.com

Post by Don Burnette
from that.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
--
Don Burnette

[Bryan]

Post by e***@gmail.com
I'm having several issues with this lesson.
1) Rod is talking about how the DME is in the upper right hand corner,
with red letters and three numbers. Not even close. In my lesson, the
DME is in the middle-right, with orange letters and only 2 sets of
numbers. Did it load the wrong airplane somehow?

Same here, just a glitch in the lesson I suppose

Post by e***@gmail.com
2) I have conflicting messages in the screen. It'll tell me "You are
too far left. Turn left." I have no idea how to pass this lesson.

I tried the lesson and it went Ok. I have a feeling that the program is
getting confused and thinks that because you are pointing to the right
to intercept the radial, you are heading the wrong way and must turn to
the left to fly 360.

I ignored the text messages and just kept trying to stay on the radial.



Bryan

[Mike Young]

Post by Bryan

Post by e***@gmail.com
I'm having several issues with this lesson.
1) Rod is talking about how the DME is in the upper right hand corner,
with red letters and three numbers. Not even close. In my lesson, the
DME is in the middle-right, with orange letters and only 2 sets of
numbers. Did it load the wrong airplane somehow?

Same here, just a glitch in the lesson I suppose

Post by e***@gmail.com
2) I have conflicting messages in the screen. It'll tell me "You are
too far left. Turn left." I have no idea how to pass this lesson.

I tried the lesson and it went Ok. I have a feeling that the program is
getting confused and thinks that because you are pointing to the right to
intercept the radial, you are heading the wrong way and must turn to the
left to fly 360.
I ignored the text messages and just kept trying to stay on the radial.

Yah. I just reflew that lesson. The briefing wants you to hold the assigned
headings within 10 degrees, and altitude within 300 feet. Not a very high
hurdle to jump.

Intercept the 360 radial by turning right to 010 when he hands you the
controls. "You're too far left" is correct. You are initially left of the
360 radial. "Turn left more" is also correct. You do not need or want more
than 10 degrees to intercept.

Holding altitude is also easy. The plane is already trimmed when he hands it
over. My largest deviation was less than 30 feet.

Intercepting and centering on the 090 radial is easiest is you delay the
turn to 135 until he prompts you a second time. It makes more sense in my
mind to wait until the needle starts moving, but he's the instructor and I'm
just the passenger. What do I know?

Standard rate turns make it easy to maintain altitude closely and roll out
on heading without overshoot. If you can't do it, just practice more. IFR
will be significantly difficult without this basic skill.

Flying around on my own, the plane is not so well trimmed as in the lessons.
I think quite often of building my own throttle quadrant with a multi-turn
pot for the trim wheel. Or a digital encoder. A few extra levers for prop
and mixture would be good, also. And switches. We all need more switches.