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transparent VC panel
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Danny
2012-04-30 16:53:03 UTC
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I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.

Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF

Any hint from you gurus?
Danny
2012-04-30 17:13:04 UTC
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"Danny" wrote in message news:qP-dnWvBO-LvXgPSnZ2dnUVZ_u-***@giganews.com...

I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.

Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF

Any hint from you gurus?
Ian D
2012-04-30 21:49:03 UTC
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Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks like more than your panel is transparent. Your
plane is made of Scotty's transparent aluminum.
Walt_M
2012-04-30 22:29:28 UTC
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Post by Ian D
Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks like more than your panel is transparent. Your
plane is made of Scotty's transparent aluminum.
I don't know if this will help, but i have vague recollection that
turning "reflections" off might fix it. Just a hunch from the
village idiot. ;-)


Walt
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Danny
2012-04-30 23:41:56 UTC
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Outside looking IN is okay. But, inside looking out...transparent cabin and
panel looks awful.
Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks like more than your panel is transparent. Your
plane is made of Scotty's transparent aluminum.
Ian D
2012-05-01 13:51:43 UTC
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Post by Danny
Outside looking IN is okay. But, inside looking out...transparent cabin
and panel looks awful.
Ah, one way aluminum.
Post by Danny
Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks like more than your panel is transparent. Your
plane is made of Scotty's transparent aluminum.
NM5K
2012-05-01 00:19:19 UTC
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Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks like it's missing the main panel BMP for the VC.
Or maybe it's misnamed in the panel.cfg..
This type of deal is usually missing, or misnamed bmp's,
but it can also happen if the original plane was using a
panel from a different plane, and they didn't copy all the bmp
files to place in a stand alone panel folder for that plane.
Sometimes goofy BMP's might cause that, but I think it probably
can't find it the bmp for some reason.
Danny
2012-05-01 02:41:19 UTC
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More than just the panel. Side bulkheads are also transparent. The panel
bitmap is mostly for the 2D. The VC is all built in to the model files.
Others too, have experienced this problem according to post I read. So say
remove SP2 but that can not be it. This is a NEW plane from Carenado and no
doubt they incorporated SP2 into their design.
Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks like it's missing the main panel BMP for the VC.
Or maybe it's misnamed in the panel.cfg..
This type of deal is usually missing, or misnamed bmp's,
but it can also happen if the original plane was using a
panel from a different plane, and they didn't copy all the bmp
files to place in a stand alone panel folder for that plane.
Sometimes goofy BMP's might cause that, but I think it probably
can't find it the bmp for some reason.
Dallas
2012-05-01 03:16:46 UTC
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Post by Danny
More than just the panel. Side bulkheads are also transparent. The panel
bitmap is mostly for the 2D. The VC is all built in to the model files.
Yes, most often the VC background panel is part of the .MDL file, but I've
seen VC bitmap files in some aircraft panel folders. But... irrelevant in
your case if more than the panel is missing.

Clearly, I was going for a laugh in the "You think you've got problems"
post.

But, it actually does have some relevance here. My "Wonder Woman" airplane
is caused by the MindStar G1000 add in. Often it will suddenly crash and
it takes out the engines and makes half the VC disappear.

What it does, I would have said was impossible before. But, it proves that
software quirks can wipe out parts of the .MDL file.

I'd bet on a Carenado programing bug.
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Dallas
Danny
2012-05-01 16:20:21 UTC
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I have see this in a few other planes...and they had ALL, to the best of my
recall, been Carenado planes. Some I dragged out of FS9 over to FSX.

The search continues.
Post by Danny
More than just the panel. Side bulkheads are also transparent. The panel
bitmap is mostly for the 2D. The VC is all built in to the model files.
Yes, most often the VC background panel is part of the .MDL file, but I've
seen VC bitmap files in some aircraft panel folders. But... irrelevant in
your case if more than the panel is missing.

Clearly, I was going for a laugh in the "You think you've got problems"
post.

But, it actually does have some relevance here. My "Wonder Woman" airplane
is caused by the MindStar G1000 add in. Often it will suddenly crash and
it takes out the engines and makes half the VC disappear.

What it does, I would have said was impossible before. But, it proves that
software quirks can wipe out parts of the .MDL file.

I'd bet on a Carenado programing bug.
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Dallas
Danny
2012-05-01 17:13:46 UTC
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The standard Carenado reply is:
This problem usually happens in FSX when you don't have SP2 or Acceleration
Pack installed.
You can get SP2 for free from this link
Do you have the latest drivers of your video card?
Try lowering the graphics setting.
This may also happens if you are using a FS2004 version of the product in
FSX.

I have installed Acceleration, which I understand installs SP2. I have the
FA18, and the EH101 and the P51 which I believe were all put in place with
Acceleration installation. But, is there a way to confirm SP2 is correctly
installed?
Would reinstalling just SP2 harm anything?







"Dallas" wrote in message news:1600016583357533861.036374Cybnorm-
Post by Danny
More than just the panel. Side bulkheads are also transparent. The panel
bitmap is mostly for the 2D. The VC is all built in to the model files.
Yes, most often the VC background panel is part of the .MDL file, but I've
seen VC bitmap files in some aircraft panel folders. But... irrelevant in
your case if more than the panel is missing.

Clearly, I was going for a laugh in the "You think you've got problems"
post.

But, it actually does have some relevance here. My "Wonder Woman" airplane
is caused by the MindStar G1000 add in. Often it will suddenly crash and
it takes out the engines and makes half the VC disappear.

What it does, I would have said was impossible before. But, it proves that
software quirks can wipe out parts of the .MDL file.

I'd bet on a Carenado programing bug.
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Dallas
NM5K
2012-05-01 07:48:38 UTC
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More than just the panel. Side bulkheads are also transparent. The panel
bitmap is mostly for the 2D. The VC is all built in to the model files.
Others too, have experienced this problem according to post I read. So
say remove SP2 but that can not be it. This is a NEW plane from Carenado
and no doubt they incorporated SP2 into their design.
Must be a few texture files missing somewhere.. I had the same
issue when I was overhauling the fs9 Beech D-18 to work with FSX.
I was missing several textures in the VC, some on the exterior,
and also the prop bmp's. But it was missing some textures because
I had many liveries of that plane, and not all common textures
were in every texture folder for the various liveries.
SP2 shouldn't have anything to do with this, particularly for a
new plane.
The VC is built into the model file, but that is just the untextured
"frame/body" so to speak. All the textures will be brought up the
texture folder for the exterior, and the panel folder for the 2D and VC
textures.
For some reason, either the textures are missing, or the link to
them is pointing in the wrong place.
It's possible the textures are within a .dll file for the VC.
So make sure that any gauge, dll, or cab files for that plane are in
the gauge folder that is common to all planes, even if it's installed
in a fsx aircraft sub folder. copy a 2nd copy to the gauge folder, just
to make sure it gets pointed to.. Normally the gauge folder would be the
last location the sim would look for those.
As mentioned, on some planes, the only BMP's in the panel folder will
be for 2D, and the rest will be imbedded into a dll or cab file.
In some cases, both 2D and VC textures will be in the panel folder..
It can vary just to how they built the thing.
Should be no major problem tracking this down and getting it going..
Just need to find out why it can't find all the textures.
Danny
2012-05-01 17:22:13 UTC
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I think the Fedex guy threw it out of his truck as he drove through the
neighborhood. UPS is so much more careful with their packages. Ha!

I expect him back the neighborhood any day now. send me an address and I'll
tell him to come to your area, too.
drmckeeatyahoodotcom. I rarely ever check that email but will be on the
lookout.

Danny
Post by NM5K
Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks like it's missing the main panel BMP for the VC.
Or maybe it's misnamed in the panel.cfg..
This type of deal is usually missing, or misnamed bmp's,
but it can also happen if the original plane was using a
panel from a different plane, and they didn't copy all the bmp
files to place in a stand alone panel folder for that plane.
Sometimes goofy BMP's might cause that, but I think it probably
can't find it the bmp for some reason.
Ditto the diagnosis.


Danny - where did you obtain the Caranedo C90 from??

I could download it here and see if I can duplicate it.
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Bruce
Bigglesworth
2012-05-01 07:14:05 UTC
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Post by Danny
I intended to stick this link on that post.
http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad69/dannymckee/CLEAR_PANEL.png
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
Looks pretty much like the base texture file for the 3d model of the
inside of the a/c is missing, or corrupt or mis-named. Try deleting and
reinstalling the a/c; might work if the problem arose during the
original file writes on installation. Else it could be a corrupted
installer; or if you did the install via an optical drive, a read/write
failure from the installer disk.

Hope this helps

biggles
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Dallas
2012-05-01 00:03:23 UTC
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You think you have problems?

http://tinyurl.com/c3bqbof
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Dallas
WayPoint
2012-05-01 00:22:47 UTC
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Post by Dallas
You think you have problems?
http://tinyurl.com/c3bqbof
Almost invisible stealth aircraft.
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WayPoint
2012-05-01 00:28:26 UTC
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Post by WayPoint
Post by Dallas
You think you have problems?
http://tinyurl.com/c3bqbof
Almost invisible stealth aircraft.
Or you've hired Wonder Womans' robot plane. :-)
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Bruce
unknown
2012-05-01 02:10:42 UTC
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Post by Dallas
You think you have problems?
http://tinyurl.com/c3bqbof
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Dallas
Why are your props feathered? (Or are your feathers propped?)
Danny
2012-05-01 02:37:59 UTC
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Dallas wrote: You think you have problems?

Thank you Doctor. Others share your opinion. They say I suffer from
insanity but I am enjoying every minute of it!
WayPoint
2012-05-02 04:00:07 UTC
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Post by Danny
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
I had a similar problem when I moved the broomstick from FS2000/FS2002
(??) to FSX.
There was some weird graphics until I reinstalled SP1 - then everything
came good. Maybe I was just lucky.

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Bruce
w***@calypte.pl
2015-08-18 22:01:05 UTC
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Post by Danny
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
I posted a fix here:
http://c-aviation.net/transparent-cockpit-textures-in-fsx/
g***@gmail.com
2016-09-14 10:29:37 UTC
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Post by Danny
I Recently installed a plane the Carenado C90. It looks great but has a
transparent VC panel. I have actually seen this in another plane or two
that I moved from FS9 to FS10.
Win7 64 SP1
Nvidia graphics card = 560M 2GB
Nvidia driver = 296.10
DX 11 preview is OFF
Any hint from you gurus?
I´ve found that the problem is caused by the antivirus installed because sometimes it doesn´t allow to install some files that come with the airplane software which are figured out as virus and it proceed to eliminate and "fixing".

The solution is just as follows:

1. Turn off your internet connection.

2. Turn off temporarily your antivirus.

3. Install the airplane software.

4. Run your FSX and try with the airplane previously installed and check that it´s working properly.

5. IMPORTANT: Just after you play and check your airplane you can proceed to reactivate your antivirus and your internet connections and if the trouble persists reinstall the airplane following the previous instructions and play again wihtout antivirus and internet activated.

Best regards.

German

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